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Natromelansonite, Na (sub 3) Zr[Si (sub 7) AlO (sub 19) ].4-5H (sub 2) O, a new member of the rhodesite mero-plesiotype series from Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec, Canada; reply

Thomas E. Gore and Andrew M. McDonald

Mineralogical Magazine (October 2024) 88 (5): 623-625

Abstract

In this communication, we present a brief response to Lykova et al. (2024) who, in a paper in volume 88 https://doi.org/10.1180/mgm.2024.1 (this journal), describe the occurrence of the new mineral natromelansonite, Na (sub 3) Zr(Si (sub 7) AlO (sub 19) ).4-5H (sub 2) O, and provide commentary on the related species, melansonite (Na,) (sub 2) KZrSi (sub 8) O (sub 19) .5H (sub 2) O. The comments in question revolve primarily around the roles and abundances of Al and Na in both minerals, and how their incorporation is best represented in their idealised formulae. Lykova et al. (2024) state that Al is an essential component of both melansonite and natromelansonite and should thus be reflected in the ideal formulae. With respect to Na, they propose that the ideal formula of melansonite contains two Na apfu rather than one, as was presented in our initial definition of the mineral. We reiterate there is no unequivocal evidence that Al is an essential component of melansonite, occupying a unique crystallographic site, but rather, it only substitutes for Si. Secondly, though the true Na content of melansonite is probably higher than were originally reported (this being simply explained by the thin nature of the crystals analysed and the volatility of Na under the electron beam), it cannot reconcile the doubling of the Na apfu for melansonite, as was suggested by Lykova et al. (2024).


ISSN: 0026-461X
EISSN: 1471-8022
Serial Title: Mineralogical Magazine
Serial Volume: 88
Serial Issue: 5
Modified Title: Natromelansonite, Na (sub 3) Zr[Si (sub 7) AlO (sub 19) ].4-5H (sub 2) O, a new member of the rhodesite mero-plesiotype series from Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec, Canada; reply
Affiliation: Ministry of Mines, Ontario Geological Survey, Geoscience Laboratories, Sudbury, ON, Canada
Pages: 623-625
Published: 202410
Text Language: English
Publisher: Cambridge University Press on behalf of the Mineralogical Society of the UK and Ireland, London, United Kingdom
References: 5
Accession Number: 2025-004189
Categories: Mineralogy of silicates
Document Type: Serial
Bibliographic Level: Analytic
Annotation: For reference to original see Lykova, I., et al., Mineralogical Magazine, Vol. 88, no. 2, DOI; 10.1180/mgm.2024.1, 2024
Secondary Affiliation: Laurentian University, Harquail School of Earth Sciences, CAN, Canada
Country of Publication: United Kingdom
Secondary Affiliation: GeoRef, Copyright 2025, American Geosciences Institute. Abstract, Copyright, Mineralogical Society of Great Britain and Ireland. Reference includes data from GeoScienceWorld, Alexandria, VA, United States
Update Code: 2025
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